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Critical Listening For Program Directors



So does a PD listen to the station? Of course—that’s part of the job. But when does the PD get a chance to REALLY listen? Between meetings, phone calls, dealing with the GM, Sales Manager, Promotions, Engineering, and Talent–how can the PD really listen in a way to fully hear what’s going on the air in a way to improve the product? I am talking about critical listening of your own station and the competition.

When critically listening to their own station, here’s what PD’s should be listening for:

  1. The Show-Is the program welcoming to new listeners? Or is it a private club that a new listener feels excluded from?
  2. Hosts-Do the personalities sound like they’re having fun? What stands out? Is it smart, funny, aggressive?
  3. Callers-Are they well screened and relevant to the conversation? Do the hosts move them along well or are they on too long?
  4. Imaging-Does the programming match the imaging? If the imaging makes a claim like “Your breaking news station” or “(insert City)’s home team station”, does the programming back that up? Same with the energy level. The show’s energy needs to match the energy in the imaging.
  5. Guests-What does this guest add to the show? Are they in the news or funny, entertaining or unique? Would the segment be better with or without the guest?

When critically listening to competitors, here’s what PD’s should listen for:

  1. Commercial time v Programming time: How much time per hour does your competitor dedicate to programming vs. commercials? When do they take their breaks and how long are they?
  2. Content-What is your competitor talking about? Do they stay local? Are they discussing the same things that your station is? Who are their guests?
  3. Imaging/Positioning statements-How do they position themselves? How does that compare to the messaging on your station?
  4. Promotions-What type of promotions are they doing? Are they guerrilla marketing the team you have rights to? Are they doing remotes? Are those remotes sales or programming driven?
  5. Sound-How do they sound on the radio, online, on the app, on Alexa? Is it clean or overly processed? How’s their signal during the day and at night?

The PD not only needs to critically listen to their station(s) but their competitor(s) as well. PD’s must create time in their daily schedules to do it. How does that happen? Here are a few ways:

  1. Limit your time reading and returning emails while in the office. Check it only 2-3 times a day at set times. For example, checking it when arriving at work, Noon, and 5pm.
  2. Create off-site listening time and days. It can be at home or if you have hotel trade, a hotel room works best. Bring a legal pad and spend the day listening and filling the pages with notes.
  3. As best as it can be avoided, stay off the phone in the car. The car is the best place to replicate the experience of a regular listener. You catch the show(s) from the time you get in it until the time you get out. Not from beginning to end, but a great snapshot of a show or shows.

Want to be a better PD? Then critically listen to your station and the competition. It will provide a ton of ideas on how to improve your station and how to best compete in the market. You will become the sports radio expert that everyone expects you to be.

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Asking The Right Questions Helps Create Interesting Content

Asking questions that can get a subject to talk about their feelings is a much better way to get an interesting answer.



USA Today

When ESPN’s Mike Greenberg interviewed Paolo Banchero in the lead-up to the NBA lottery on Tuesday, he asked what I’ve concluded is the single most maddening question that can be asked of any athlete preparing for any draft.

“Why do you believe you should be No. 1 pick in the NBA Draft?” Greenberg said.

Before I point out exactly why I have such a visceral reaction to such a harmless question, I want to point out the positives because Greenberg’s question avoids some of the most common pitfalls:

1) It is an actual question. That’s not as automatic as you think given the number of poor souls who are handed a microphone and say to their subject, “Talk about (whatever issue they want a quote or a sound bite on).” This is the mark of an amateur, creating the opening for an uncooperative subject to slam the door by saying, “What do you want me to say?”

2) Greenberg’s question can not be answered with a yes or a no. Questions that start with the word “Can you …” or “Did you …” may sound like they’re tough questions for the subject, but they’re actually fairly easy if the subject wants to offer an answer. Now, most interview subjects won’t take that one-word exit, but some will in a touchy situation.

The problem with Greenberg’s question has to do with the result. Why do we ask questions of the athletes we cover? Seriously. That’s not rhetorical. What’s the goal? It’s to get interesting answers. At least that’s the hope whether it’s for a quote that will be included in a story, a sound bite to be replayed later or — like in this situation — during an interview that is airing live. The question should be engineered to elicit interesting content, and there was very little chance that the question Greenberg asked Banchero was going to produce anything close to that.

I know that because I have heard some version of this question asked hundreds of times. That’s not an exaggeration. I attended the NFL scouting combine annually for a number of years, and if a player wasn’t asked why he should be the first overall pick, he’d get asked why he should be a first-round pick or why he should be one of the first players chosen at his position. Never — in all that time — have I ever heard what would be considered an interesting or informative answer. In my experience, players tend to talk in incredibly general terms about their own abilities and then seek to compliment their peers in an effort to avoid coming off as cocky.

Here’s how Banchero answered Greenberg’s question: “Yeah, thank you all for having me, first off., I feel like I’m the number one pick in the draft because I’m the best overall player. I feel like I check all the boxes whether it’s being a great teammate, being the star player or doing whatever the coach needs. I’ve been a winner my whole life. Won everywhere I’ve went, and when I get to the NBA, that’s going to be the same goal for me. So just combining all those things, and knowing what I have to work on to be better is a formula for me.”

There’s nothing wrong with answer just as there was nothing wrong with the question. It’s just that both are really, really forgettable. ESPN did put a clip on YouTube with the headline “Paolo Banchero: I’m the best overall player in the NBA Draft | NBA Countdown” but I think I’m the only who will remember it and that’s only because I’m flapping my arms and squawking not because there was anything bad per se, but because there was nothing really good, either.

First of all, I’m not sure why it matters if Banchero thinks he should be the number one overall pick. He’s not going to be making that decision. The team that holds the top draft pick — in this case Orlando — is. Here’s a much better question: “How important is it for you to be the number one overall pick?” This would actually give an idea of the stakes for Banchero. What does this actually mean to him? Asking him why he should go number one is asking Banchero to tell us how others should see him. Asking Banchero how important it would be go number one is asking him to tell us about his feelings, something that’s much more likely to produce an interesting answer.

The point here isn’t to question Greenberg’s overall competence because I don’t. He’s as versatile a host as there is in the game, and anyone else in the industry has something to learn from the way he teases ahead to content. What I want to point out not just how we fail to maximize opportunities to generate interesting content, but why. Interviews are a staple of the sports-media industry. We rely on these interviews as both primary content that will be consumed directly, and as the genesis for our own opinions and reaction yet for all that importance we spend very little time thinking about the kind of answer this question is likely to produce.

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The Client Just Said YES, Now What?

We should spend as much time on what we will do after the client says YES.



One of the most significant moments in radio sales is when the client agrees to your proposal and says YES. But, when they do say YES, do you know what’s next? We better have an answer!

We spend a lot of time getting ready for clients with research, spec spots (thank you, radio sales trainer Chris Lytle-go to 22:30), proposals, and meetings. All of our focus is on getting the client to say YES. We should spend as much time on what we will do after the client says YES. For example, getting newer sales reps to sell annual advertising contracts would be ideal for building a list. They would have less pressure, more job security, and could spend more time making the advertising work for their clients. But, since most newer reps don’t know the business yet, they don’t bite off more than they can chew and sell a package of the month.

When a client says yes to the weight loss promotion, it’s pretty clear how to write the ads, what the promos will say, etc. BUT, if a newer sales rep starts selling annual contracts to a direct local client who needs a resource, how will that work? Let’s make sure we paint the picture right upfront. More experienced reps know that they need to assume the client will say YES to the weight loss promo and have a plan accordingly.

They have the next steps to building copy and promos, a credit app or credit card payment form, and any other detail the client must provide. But, when we ask a direct local client for an annual advertising contract, watch out! You have just made a partnership. Why not lay out, upfront, what that will look like. And I understand not every local client needs the same level of service.

A car dealer has the factories pushing quarterly promotions, agencies producing ads, and in-house marketing directors pulling it all together sometimes. Other clients need your help in promotions, copywriting, or idea generation. Make a plan upfront with your client about when you will meet to discuss the next quarter’s ad program. Include your station’s promotions or inventory for football and basketball season, a summer NTR event, digital testimonials with on-air talent, etc., in your annual proposal. Go out as far as you can and show what you have to offer to the client and how you can execute it. This exercise is good for you and, once mastered, guides the client on how you will take care of them after the sale. It also opens your eyes to what it takes to have a successful client partnership inside and outside the station.

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Media Noise – Episode 74



This week, Demetri is joined by Ian Casselberry and Ryan Brown. Demetri talks about the NBA Draft getting an ABC simulcast, Ian talks about Patrick Beverley’s breakout week on TV, and Ryan reminds us that Tom Brady may be the star, but Kevin Burkhardt is the story we shouldn’t forget.

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