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Give The Morning Teams The Extra Credit They Deserve!

“Have you ever found yourself sitting on a bench outside of a Chinese buffet at 10:45 in the morning because you know they’ll be open at 11 and maybe if the manager sees you outside she’ll unlock the doors ten minutes early?”

Demetri Ravanos



Our week-plus-long rollout of industry top 20 lists begins today by recognizing the best morning shows across the country. I think it is appropriate to use today’s column to give those guys their due. I’m not going to single out my favorite shows. I just want recognize the folks that are doing great radio at the toughest time of day to do great radio.

I’ve been a part of shows in every day part except for middays. They all come with their own unique set of challenges, but no team faces as many challenges as the morning team. Hosts have to experience and digest all of the necessary news and results by 6 am. Producers have to be in the studio by 5 am gathering audio and planning for any direction the host may want to take the conversation. To add to the challenge, you have to form and maintain relationships amongst a group of people that never get good sleep.

Morning radio is an unhealthy lifestyle. I’ve never seen someone drink more cups of coffee, so strong that they might as well have been liquified cocaine, than my old morning show partner Mike Maniscalco.

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This is not Mike Maniscalco

On top of the coffee intake, there is the aforementioned lack of sleep. That leads to it being hard to want to get any exercise. Oh, and the diet is usually awful because it is impossible to maintain any sort of normal eating schedule. Have you ever found yourself sitting on a bench outside of a Chinese buffet at 10:45 in the morning because you know they’ll be open at 11 and maybe if the manager sees you outside she’ll unlock the doors ten minutes early?

I have. A LOT!

Those are just the professional hassles of the morning hours. You also have to figure out how to have a normal relationship with the world around you.

Do you have kids? Well, the good news is a morning radio schedule means you’ll always be available for their various activities. The bad news is you are going to struggle not to choke out the other parents sitting around you. You’ll run into people that hear what you do for a living and can’t comprehend why you would ever complain. All you have to do is watch and talk about sports right? They would love to stay up all night if it meant they got to do that in the morning.

Then there is the actual show prep. Again, sleep is going to play a role here. My wife’s colleagues used to ask me all the time how I got used to waking up at 4 am. I would always tell them that you never get used to it. You just get used to being tired all the time.

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You have to be up late enough to see the games. You have to be up early enough to consider the various angles before settling on the right one to bring to air. Remember, morning radio gets started before the first morning SportsCenter has hit the air. The best known hot take artists probably won’t have had their say on last night’s results yet, so unlike the other day parts, morning shows won’t have deep well of ridiculous quotes to react to.

You have to know your best sources of material. You know where to go for play-by-play and stats, but do you know who is putting out the think pieces that will generate the most debate early in the morning or overnight? Do you want a lot of listener interaction? You have to structure your show around when the phone line, text line, and Twitter is most active.

Do you need a guest on the fly? How early can you call even someone you consider a “friend of the show” without disrupting their routine or pissing them off? The hardest thing to get used to in a morning schedule is remembering that not everyone else is getting used to a morning schedule.

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So in addition to tipping a cap to Toucher & Rich and Bernie Miklasz for topping our respective morning show lists, tip a hat to them and everyone else on the lists of best morning shows for figuring out how to thrive in a lifestyle no human is meant to live.

Also, remember that a morning show sleep schedule is difficult to just turn off. There’s a good chance “sleeping in on the weekend” means like 5:30 or 6 am to these guys. I am not saying that makes them heroes. I am just saying that makes them better than you.

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Being Wrong On-Air Isn’t A Bad Thing

…if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign.




In the press conference after the Warriors won their fourth NBA title in eight years, Steph Curry referenced a very specific gesture from a very specific episode of Get Up that aired in August 2021.

“Clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up the big zero,” Curry said, then holding up a hollowed fist to one eye, looking through it as if it were a telescope.

“How many championships we would have going forward because of everything we went through.”

Yep, Kendrick Perkins and Domonique Foxworth each predicted the Warriors wouldn’t win a single title over the course of the four-year extension Curry had just signed. The Warriors won the NBA title and guess what? Curry gets to gloat.

The funny part to me was the people who felt Perkins or Foxworth should be mad or embarrassed. Why? Because they were wrong?

That’s part of the game. If you’re a host or analyst who is never wrong in a prediction, it’s more likely that you’re excruciatingly boring than exceedingly smart. Being wrong is not necessarily fun, but it’s not a bad thing in this business.

You shouldn’t try to be wrong, but you shouldn’t be afraid of it, either. And if you are wrong, own it. Hold your L as I’ve heard the kids say. Don’t try to minimize it or explain it or try to point out how many other people are wrong, too. Do what Kendrick Perkins did on Get Up the day after the Warriors won the title.

“When they go on to win it, guess what?” He said, sitting next to Mike Greenberg. “You have to eat that.”

Do not do what Perkins did later that morning on First Take.

Perkins: “I come on here and it’s cool, right? Y’all can pull up Perk receipts and things to that nature. And then you give other people a pass like J-Will.”

Jason Williams: “I don’t get passes on this show.”

Perkins: “You had to, you had a receipt, too, because me and you both picked the Memphis Grizzlies to beat the Golden State Warriors, but I’m OK with that. I’m OK with that. Go ahead Stephen A. I know you’re about to have fun and do your thing. Go ahead.”

Stephen A. Smith: “First of all, I’m going to get serious for a second with the both of you, especially you, Perk, and I want to tell you something right now. Let me throw myself on Front Street, we can sit up there and make fun of me. You know how many damn Finals predictions I got wrong? I don’t give a damn. I mean, I got a whole bunch of them wrong. Ain’t no reason to come on the air and defend yourself. Perk, listen man. You were wrong. And we making fun, and Steph Curry making fun of you. You laugh at that my brother. He got you today. That’s all. He got you today.”

It’s absolutely great advice, and if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign. It means they’re not just listening, but holding on to what you say. You matter. Don’t ruin that by getting defensive and testy.


I did a double-take when I saw Chris Russo’s list of the greatest QB-TE combinations ever on Wednesday and this was before I ever got to Tom Brady-to-Rob Gronkowski listed at No. 5. It was actually No. 4 that stopped me cold: Starr-Kramer.

My first thought: Jerry Kramer didn’t play tight end.

My second thought: I must be unaware of this really good tight end from the Lombardi-era Packers.

After further review, I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. Ron Kramer did play for the Lombardi-era Packers, and he was a good player. He caught 14 scoring passes in a three-year stretch where he really mattered, but he failed to catch a single touchdown pass in six of the 10 NFL seasons he played. He was named first-team All-Pro once and finished his career with 229 receptions.

Now this is not the only reason that this is an absolutely terrible list. It is the most egregious, however. Bart Starr and Kramer are not among the 25 top QB-TE combinations in NFL history let alone the top five. And if you’re to believe Russo’s list, eighty percent of the top tandems played in the NFL in the 30-year window from 1958 to 1987 with only one tandem from the past 30 years meriting inclusion when this is the era in which tight end production has steadily climbed.

Then I found out that Russo is making $10,000 per appearance on “First Take.”

My first thought: You don’t have to pay that much to get a 60-something white guy to grossly exaggerate how great stuff used to be.

My second thought: That might be the best $10,000 ESPN has ever spent.

Once a week, Russo comes on and draws a reaction out of a younger demographic by playing a good-natured version of Dana Carvey’s Grumpy Old Man. Russo groans to JJ Redick about the lack of fundamental basketball skills in today’s game or he proclaims the majesty of a tight end-quarterback pairing that was among the top five in its decade, but doesn’t sniff the top five of all-time.

And guess what? It works. Redick rolls his eyes, asks Russo which game he’s watching, and on Wednesday he got me to spend a good 25 minutes looking up statistics for some Packers tight end I’d never heard of. Not satisfied with that, I then moved on to determine Russo’s biggest omission from the list, which I’ve concluded is Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates, who connected for 89 touchdowns over 15 seasons, which is only 73 more touchdowns than Kramer scored in his career. John Elway and Shannon Sharpe should be on there, too.

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Money Isn’t The Key Reason Why Sellers Sell Sports Radio

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions.

Jeff Caves



Radio Sales

A radio salesperson’s value being purely tied to money is overrated to me. Our managers all believe that our main motivation for selling radio is to make more money. They see no problem in asking us to sell more in various ways because it increases our paycheck. We are offered more money to sell digital, NTR, to sell another station in the cluster, weekend remotes, new direct business, or via the phone in 8 hours. 

But is that why you sell sports radio?

In 2022, the Top 10 highest paying sales jobs are all in technology. Not a media company among them. You could argue that if it were all about making money, we should quit and work in tech. Famous bank robber Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed twenty banks over twenty years. He reportedly said,” that’s where the money is”. Sutton is the classic example of a person who wanted what money could provide and was willing to do whatever it took to get it, BUT he also admitted he liked robbing banks and felt alive. So, Sutton didn’t do it just for the money.

A salesperson’s relationship with money and prestige is also at the center of the play Death of a Salesman. Willy Loman is an aging and failing salesman who decides he is worth more dead than alive and kills himself in an auto accident giving his family the death benefit from his life insurance policy. Loman wasn’t working for the money. He wanted the prestige of what money could buy for himself and his family. 

Recently, I met a woman who spent twelve years selling radio from 1999-2011. I asked her why she left her senior sales job. She said she didn’t like the changes in the industry. Consolidation was at its peak, and most salespeople were asked to do more with less help. She described her radio sales job as one with “golden handcuffs”. The station paid her too much money to quit even though she hated the job. She finally quit. The job wasn’t worth the money to her.

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions. I never wanted to sell anything else and specifically enjoyed selling programming centered around reaching fans of Boise State University football. That’s it. Very similar to what Mark Glynn and his KJR staff experience when selling Kraken hockey and Huskies football.  

I never thought selling sports radio was the best way to make money. I just enjoyed the way I could make money. I focused on the process and what I enjoyed about the position—the freedom to come and go and set my schedule for the most part. I concentrated on annual contracts and clients who wanted to run radio commercials over the air to get more traffic and build their brand.

Most of my clients were local direct and listened to the station. Some other sales initiatives had steep learning curves, were one-day events or contracted out shaky support staff. In other words, the money didn’t motivate me enough. How I spent my time was more important. 

So, if you are in management, maybe consider why your sales staff is working at the station. Because to me, they’d be robbing banks if it were all about making lots of money.  

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Media Noise: BSM Podcast Network Round Table



Demetri Ravanos welcomes the two newest members of the BSM Podcast Network to the show. Brady Farkas and Stephen Strom join for a roundtable discussion that includes the new media, Sage Steele and Roger Goodell telling Congress that Dave Portnoy isn’t banned from NFL events.

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