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Mobster vs. Prosecutor: Franzese and Giuliani talk on Joe Pags Show

The two revisited their courtroom conflict in four-part interview.

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Nationally syndicated radio host Joe Pags aired a special four-part interview last week with former prosecutor Rudy Giuliani and former high-profile mobster Michael Franzese. Giuliani prosecuted Franzese back in the 1980’s for various federal crimes. 

The two men had not seen or spoken to each other in nearly 40 years, but they have reportedly mended fences and put their differences aside. Pags said that he conducts interviews with both men on a regular basis and got the idea to bring the two together after Giuliani asked how Franzese was doing.

“First of all, the cases that I prosecuted were never personal,” said Giuliani. “All of the cases I prosecuted my professional. Some of the cases were worse than others and some of the individuals were actually nice people who just got caught up in bad stuff.”

In 1985, Franzese was indicted on 14 counts of racketeering, counterfeiting, and extortion. A year later he pleaded guilty to two counts and was sentenced to a decade in federal prison. He was arrested for defrauding the government out of gasoline taxes.

Franzese was a well-respected captain in the Colombo crime family. Since his release from prison, he has written six books and become a motivational speaker. 

“I grew up hating law enforcement because all I could remember from the point I was young is them trying to put away my father,” said Franzese. “My dad, who was my hero, put a lot of things in my head about law enforcement. A lot of guys I grew up with did not like law enforcement because they were street guys.” 

The Joe Pags Show is a daily news/talk show heard from 5-8pm Central from Flagship WOAI in San Antonio and broadcast on dozens affiliate stations nationwide. 

Joe Pags is ranked #12 in the 2020 Talkers Magazine “Heavy Hundred” and his show was recently named to the NewsMax list of the most influential local talk shows in the country.

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Jeff Smulyan Preps Book Release

“I also hope that some of the lessons I’ve learned (many of them painful) will be helpful to you in navigating your careers and your family life.”

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Emmis CEO Jeff Smulyan has written a book, with a November 8th release date.

Never Ride A Rollercoaster Upside Down: The Ups, Downs, and Reinvention of An Entrepreneur will revealed some of the most enjoy experiences of the business owner’s life.

“I think you will enjoy many of the stories and hopefully you’ll even laugh out loud at a number of them,” Smulyan said. “I also hope that some of the lessons I’ve learned (many of them painful) will be helpful to you in navigating your careers and your family life.”

According to publisher Matt Holt, Never Ride a Rollercoaster Upside Down details Smulyan’s journey: from taking over his cousin’s failing country music radio station and founding his own company, to purchasing and then selling ownership of the Seattle Mariners and guiding his company through the Golden Age of Radio. Alongside his humorous, eventful, and dramatic stories, Smulyan presents valuable pointers and tips—for anyone else brave enough to try their own hand at starting a business.

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Greg Kelly, Joe Madison Feud Over Washington D.C. Museums

Kelly recently discussed schools sending their eight grade students to Washington D.C. and the museums they visit.

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SiriusXM host Joe Madison and WABC77 host Greg Kelly have feuded recently over an unlikely subject: Washington D.C. museums.

Kelly recently discussed schools sending their eight grade students to Washington D.C. and the museums they visit. He then said there isn’t much worth seeing inside the African-American Museum, and your time would be better spent at the Air and Space Museum, which Madison took issue with.

“You know Greg Kelly? What an asshole,” Madison said in the clip. “Give me a damn break. I’ve been there. It’s divisive. ‘Go to the Air and Space Museum’. I’ve been there. It’s cool. You can touch a moon rock. But this is divisive. Excuse me, SiriusXM and Pandora, by the way, have an exhibit there. They have an exhibit there.”

“Does that make you want to go to the African-American Museum?”, Kelly asked. “To see some radio station’s sponsorship? That they bought off the mob? That they did some philanthropic virtue signaling? I don’t really care about that.”

He then played a clip of Madison saying you can see Chuck Berry’s Cadillac at the museum, which Kelly mocked. He then played another clip of Madison making a plea for a discussion between the pair.

“Let me tell you something, Greg Kelly,” Madison said. “If you had any brains whatsoever, damn you, call me, damn it! Call me! But you don’t have the courage to call me.”

“So I called him, and all he did was yell, and scream, and curse,” Kelly said. “He yelled. He screamed. And he cursed. What a missed opportunity for him.”

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Audacy Reportedly Prepping Cadence13 Sale

Cadence13 has recently launched several new podcasts, including shows by Stephen A. Smith and former NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s Dirty Mo Media.

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A report from Sara Fischer of Axios claims Audacy has hired bankers to explore a sale of Cadence13, one of its two podcast studios.

The company faces potential delisting by the New York Stock Exchange if its price remains at under $1 per share. The NYSE gave Audacy notice that it had six months to increase its price or face the delisting. Shares closed Friday at an all-time low of 39 cents.

Audacy purchased a stake in Cadence13, then called DGital Media, in 2017. It then purchased the remaining shares of the company in 2019, placing its valuation at approaching $50 million.

Fischer reporters Audacy would seek to sell Cadence13 at nearly double that $50 million valuation.

Cadence13 has recently launched several new podcasts, including shows by Stephen A. Smith and former NASCAR driver Dale Earnhardt Jr.’s Dirty Mo Media.

In addition to Cadence13, Audacy also owns two other podcast studios, 2400Sports and Pineapple Street Studios.

An Audacy spokesperson told Axios “we don’t comment on rumors of this nature”.

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