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It Worked Out How It Was Supposed To For Brady Quinn

“In my mind, there is no greater sport in the world that prepares you for whatever the next step is in your life than the game of football and probably nothing better than playing the position of quarterback.”

Demetri Ravanos



USA Today Sports

Brady Quinn doesn’t feel pressure in his new job. Pressure is not being able to find an open receiver as the pocket collapses and you realize a linebacker is about to have a free shot at you.

Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk goes in for the sack on Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn (10) in the second half of the Fiesta Bowl college football game, Monday, Jan. 2, 2006 at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Ariz.. (AP Photo/Jason Babyak)
Courtesy: Jason Babyak/AP

Hosting a radio show? Talking about football? That’s not hard. That’s fun.

Fans can see Brady Quinn every Saturday morning in the fall on FOX’s Big Noon Kickoff. They can hear him every morning on FOX Sports Radio’s 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe. That is a nice media footprint for someone that never really thought he wanted one.

“I never went to school thinking I was going to get into broadcasting or journalism when I was done,” he told me. “I was a finance and poli-sci major. I planned on going and playing in the NFL and then retiring and kind of finding that next thing. And, you know, I didn’t play as long as I wanted to and fortunately got introduced to someone at FOX Sports to start doing games, college and NFL, for Fox. That led to the opportunity to talk to Don Martin and Scott Shapiro about filling in some on radio on the weekends when I had time, and it’s just kind of started to evolve.”

Does he still spend time thinking about the fact that his NFL career didn’t last as long as he wanted? That isn’t a question I can answer.

What I can tell you is that Brady Quinn is very well aware of just how much Dolphins fans thought he was going to be their quarterback on Draft Day in 2007. He thought the team was going to take him too. The ninth pick came though, and the name that was called was Ted Ginn Jr’s.

“Yeah, that was an interesting moment, especially considering all of our conversations before the draft. I really thought that that was going to be where I ended up. But hey, life works out the way it’s supposed to work,” he says. “I end up going to my childhood team that I rooted for growing up, you know, they went a different direction, which I’m not sure really that worked out for them. I think Cam Cameron got fired after one year. But you know, it’s not like things worked out in Cleveland quite as well for me, either. So maybe it would have worked out. Who knows?”

It is a simple philosophy. “Life works out the way it is supposed to work.” It’s a pretty healthy one too.

One thing that was supposed to work out, it seems, was that Don Martin and Scott Shapiro would tell him and Jonas Knox, who he was already working with, to meet LaVarr Arrington.

I think when we had worked together, Jonas and I kind of had our own own show, our own deal. What we came to discover is sometimes you don’t know what you’re missing until you introduce someone or something like that into your life. And that was kind of how it happened,” he says of the radio partnership.

We talk about prep a lot in the media business. It isn’t just finding stories. It is finding the evidence to support the point you want to make. It is finding the detail that will make your audience laugh or think differently about a story they have heard you and others talk about for days. That is the best way to guarantee you have a great show.

“In my mind, there is no greater sport in the world that prepares you for whatever the next step is in your life than the game of football and probably nothing better than playing the position of quarterback,” Quinn says.

He may not have called it prep for most of his life, but Quinn says that meetings and film study serves the same purpose for quarterbacks. It is all about finding the advantages you can take advantage of on Saturday or Sunday.

Brady Quinn joins FOX Sports as NFL and college football analyst | For The  Win
Courtesy: Mel Evans/AP

“To me, you know, when you look at like the preparation that goes in as a quarterback, the way you go about conducting yourself and everything that comes along with it, there’s there’s no greater preparation for whatever the next job is,” he says. “I look back on just all of that, like how I went about preparing, how I went about taking notes, breaking down to my opponent, preparing in my head how I want to try to improve things, having a plan each day if I want to get better. All those things are directly applicable to everything that I’m doing now as a broadcaster. But really, everything I’m doing now, the outside of that too.”

You can hear the full conversation between myself and Brady Quinn on this week’s episode of the Media Noise podcast. In it, Quinn shares his thoughts on competing with College GameDay, being the lead in to two sports radio legends, and so much more. The episode is out on Friday morning.

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Being Wrong On-Air Isn’t A Bad Thing

…if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign.




In the press conference after the Warriors won their fourth NBA title in eight years, Steph Curry referenced a very specific gesture from a very specific episode of Get Up that aired in August 2021.

“Clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up the big zero,” Curry said, then holding up a hollowed fist to one eye, looking through it as if it were a telescope.

“How many championships we would have going forward because of everything we went through.”

Yep, Kendrick Perkins and Domonique Foxworth each predicted the Warriors wouldn’t win a single title over the course of the four-year extension Curry had just signed. The Warriors won the NBA title and guess what? Curry gets to gloat.

The funny part to me was the people who felt Perkins or Foxworth should be mad or embarrassed. Why? Because they were wrong?

That’s part of the game. If you’re a host or analyst who is never wrong in a prediction, it’s more likely that you’re excruciatingly boring than exceedingly smart. Being wrong is not necessarily fun, but it’s not a bad thing in this business.

You shouldn’t try to be wrong, but you shouldn’t be afraid of it, either. And if you are wrong, own it. Hold your L as I’ve heard the kids say. Don’t try to minimize it or explain it or try to point out how many other people are wrong, too. Do what Kendrick Perkins did on Get Up the day after the Warriors won the title.

“When they go on to win it, guess what?” He said, sitting next to Mike Greenberg. “You have to eat that.”

Do not do what Perkins did later that morning on First Take.

Perkins: “I come on here and it’s cool, right? Y’all can pull up Perk receipts and things to that nature. And then you give other people a pass like J-Will.”

Jason Williams: “I don’t get passes on this show.”

Perkins: “You had to, you had a receipt, too, because me and you both picked the Memphis Grizzlies to beat the Golden State Warriors, but I’m OK with that. I’m OK with that. Go ahead Stephen A. I know you’re about to have fun and do your thing. Go ahead.”

Stephen A. Smith: “First of all, I’m going to get serious for a second with the both of you, especially you, Perk, and I want to tell you something right now. Let me throw myself on Front Street, we can sit up there and make fun of me. You know how many damn Finals predictions I got wrong? I don’t give a damn. I mean, I got a whole bunch of them wrong. Ain’t no reason to come on the air and defend yourself. Perk, listen man. You were wrong. And we making fun, and Steph Curry making fun of you. You laugh at that my brother. He got you today. That’s all. He got you today.”

It’s absolutely great advice, and if you feel yourself getting uncomfortable over the fact that you were wrong, stop to realize that’s your pride talking. Your ego. And if people call you out for being wrong, it’s actually a good sign. It means they’re not just listening, but holding on to what you say. You matter. Don’t ruin that by getting defensive and testy.


I did a double-take when I saw Chris Russo’s list of the greatest QB-TE combinations ever on Wednesday and this was before I ever got to Tom Brady-to-Rob Gronkowski listed at No. 5. It was actually No. 4 that stopped me cold: Starr-Kramer.

My first thought: Jerry Kramer didn’t play tight end.

My second thought: I must be unaware of this really good tight end from the Lombardi-era Packers.

After further review, I don’t think that’s necessarily true, either. Ron Kramer did play for the Lombardi-era Packers, and he was a good player. He caught 14 scoring passes in a three-year stretch where he really mattered, but he failed to catch a single touchdown pass in six of the 10 NFL seasons he played. He was named first-team All-Pro once and finished his career with 229 receptions.

Now this is not the only reason that this is an absolutely terrible list. It is the most egregious, however. Bart Starr and Kramer are not among the 25 top QB-TE combinations in NFL history let alone the top five. And if you’re to believe Russo’s list, eighty percent of the top tandems played in the NFL in the 30-year window from 1958 to 1987 with only one tandem from the past 30 years meriting inclusion when this is the era in which tight end production has steadily climbed.

Then I found out that Russo is making $10,000 per appearance on “First Take.”

My first thought: You don’t have to pay that much to get a 60-something white guy to grossly exaggerate how great stuff used to be.

My second thought: That might be the best $10,000 ESPN has ever spent.

Once a week, Russo comes on and draws a reaction out of a younger demographic by playing a good-natured version of Dana Carvey’s Grumpy Old Man. Russo groans to JJ Redick about the lack of fundamental basketball skills in today’s game or he proclaims the majesty of a tight end-quarterback pairing that was among the top five in its decade, but doesn’t sniff the top five of all-time.

And guess what? It works. Redick rolls his eyes, asks Russo which game he’s watching, and on Wednesday he got me to spend a good 25 minutes looking up statistics for some Packers tight end I’d never heard of. Not satisfied with that, I then moved on to determine Russo’s biggest omission from the list, which I’ve concluded is Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates, who connected for 89 touchdowns over 15 seasons, which is only 73 more touchdowns than Kramer scored in his career. John Elway and Shannon Sharpe should be on there, too.

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Money Isn’t The Key Reason Why Sellers Sell Sports Radio

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions.

Jeff Caves



Radio Sales

A radio salesperson’s value being purely tied to money is overrated to me. Our managers all believe that our main motivation for selling radio is to make more money. They see no problem in asking us to sell more in various ways because it increases our paycheck. We are offered more money to sell digital, NTR, to sell another station in the cluster, weekend remotes, new direct business, or via the phone in 8 hours. 

But is that why you sell sports radio?

In 2022, the Top 10 highest paying sales jobs are all in technology. Not a media company among them. You could argue that if it were all about making money, we should quit and work in tech. Famous bank robber Willie Sutton was asked why he robbed twenty banks over twenty years. He reportedly said,” that’s where the money is”. Sutton is the classic example of a person who wanted what money could provide and was willing to do whatever it took to get it, BUT he also admitted he liked robbing banks and felt alive. So, Sutton didn’t do it just for the money.

A salesperson’s relationship with money and prestige is also at the center of the play Death of a Salesman. Willy Loman is an aging and failing salesman who decides he is worth more dead than alive and kills himself in an auto accident giving his family the death benefit from his life insurance policy. Loman wasn’t working for the money. He wanted the prestige of what money could buy for himself and his family. 

Recently, I met a woman who spent twelve years selling radio from 1999-2011. I asked her why she left her senior sales job. She said she didn’t like the changes in the industry. Consolidation was at its peak, and most salespeople were asked to do more with less help. She described her radio sales job as one with “golden handcuffs”. The station paid her too much money to quit even though she hated the job. She finally quit. The job wasn’t worth the money to her.

I started selling sports radio because I enjoyed working with clients who loved sports, our station, and wanted to reach fans with our commercials and promotions. I never wanted to sell anything else and specifically enjoyed selling programming centered around reaching fans of Boise State University football. That’s it. Very similar to what Mark Glynn and his KJR staff experience when selling Kraken hockey and Huskies football.  

I never thought selling sports radio was the best way to make money. I just enjoyed the way I could make money. I focused on the process and what I enjoyed about the position—the freedom to come and go and set my schedule for the most part. I concentrated on annual contracts and clients who wanted to run radio commercials over the air to get more traffic and build their brand.

Most of my clients were local direct and listened to the station. Some other sales initiatives had steep learning curves, were one-day events or contracted out shaky support staff. In other words, the money didn’t motivate me enough. How I spent my time was more important. 

So, if you are in management, maybe consider why your sales staff is working at the station. Because to me, they’d be robbing banks if it were all about making lots of money.  

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Media Noise: BSM Podcast Network Round Table



Demetri Ravanos welcomes the two newest members of the BSM Podcast Network to the show. Brady Farkas and Stephen Strom join for a roundtable discussion that includes the new media, Sage Steele and Roger Goodell telling Congress that Dave Portnoy isn’t banned from NFL events.

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